JamesPaytonMarieBeesaw

Copy of a few email thread regarding this line:

Dear Sudbury Researchers:
>
> I am researching the above names who were living in the Algoma/Sudbury
area
> in the 1870-1900s My husband grandparents
> and aunts and uncles were as follows:
>
> Marie (Mary) Louise BISSON (also spelled BRISSON, BESAW,BESEAU, BUISSON)
> just to name a few was the daughter of Horace and Philoemene (GOYER)
BISSON
> March 24, 1869 in New York. After her birth her family left New York and
> travelled through out Ontario stopping in places such as Renfrew,
> Temiskaming, Sudbury, Manitoulin Island, Algoma, Windsor, Detroit, Redford
> Twp, MI and then finally setting about 1881 in Massey, Ontario.
>
> Now I have a lot of info on this family but I am more interested in
learning
> about Marie (Mary) Louise BISSON and who she married. She married James
> PAYTON about 1885 as the following children were born to this couple:
>
> James Edward Payton b. 28-02-1886 Massey, Ontario died November 1918
> World War I in France
> Albert James b. 08-02-1888 Massey, Ontario
> Charles D. b. 14-09-1890 Massey, Ontario
> Henry b. 02-05-1893 Massey, Ontario
> Mary Blanche Luella b. 02-02-1896 Massey, Ontario died 1936 Wayne
> County, Michiga
> Elda Marie Philomene b. 05-29-1900 Massey, Ontario died 1982 Wayne
> County, Michigan
> George Exavier b. 11-08-1908 Massey, Ontario died 1971
> Wayne County, Michigan
> Kenneth Louis b. 19-02-1911 Massey, Ontario died 1934
> Macomb County, Michigan
>
> James Payton died in Sudbury Hospital July 11, 1910
> Marie (Mary) Louise Payton died in 1922-1923 in Wayne County, Michigan
>
> What I am looking for is church records of the marriage and births of
these
> children. I know that the Catholic Church in Massey, Ontario was not
built
> til around 1900, I also know that there were the Jesuit Priests who
> travelled this area from the Sault St. Marie to Sudbury during this time
> frame of 1870-1900 and performed all of the marriages and baptismals but I
> am trying to locate these records.
>
> I am hoping that someone on this list will be of some help to me in
locating
> these records. Any Help is greatly appreciated.
> Jean Payton
>I am looking for the Payton family of Massey and Blind River, ALGOMA district. This is what I have. Charles Payton b. 14-09-1893, Albert Payton b. 08-02-1888, Henry Payton b. 05-02-1893. all in Massey Ontario to the parents of James Payton and Marie Louise (Mary) Bisson.

Henry Payton was living in Blind River in 1913. Charles and Albert both crossed into the U.S. at Sault Saint Marie to visit their mother Marie Louise (Mary) Payton. She was living in the Detroit area at this time.

Marie and James also had the following children, James who died in 1918 in France, Mary Blanche Louella b. 1896, Elda Marie b. 1900, George b. 1908 and Kenneth b. 1911. James senior died in 1910 in Sudbury and is buried in Sudbury.

Any help with this family is greatly appreciated.
Jean Payton
I am researching the PAYTON Family from Canada and Michigan. The PAYTON Family names I am researching are James PAYTON b. ca 1851 Canada and his wife Marie (Mary) Louise BISSON b. 1869 New York. They married 1885 and had eight children, James b.1886, Albert b.1888, Charles b.1890, Henry b.1893, Mary Blanche b.1896, Ellda P. b.1900, George E. b.1908, Kenneth L. b.1911. James died 1910 in Canada and Marie came to Detroit Michigan about 1911-1984 with her four youngest children. I am researching the eldest four children. I know James, the eldest son died 1918 in France and I know where he is buried and who he married and I have also had contact with his daughter-in-law and grandson. I also have pictures of the cemetery and the cemetery marker.I am still looking to verify info about the other three older brothers. I have proof regarding James, Sr. birth, parents, siblings and grandparents. I also have proof of the four younger children who were all born in Canada and all died in Detroit area between 1934 and 1984 and who they married and their children.
There seems to be some question as to the above names and when and where they were born and whether they were Native American and French. Also there seems to be some discussion as to how they were forced to change their names, and where the children were born. So I am trying to correct all of the misinformation that has been submitted by Lori Luttman Slack Harrell

James Payton b. Quebec ca 1853 and Marie Bisson daughter of Horace and Philomene Bisson b. March 24, 1869, Franklin Co., New York. married ca 1885 and had the following children all born in Massey,. Sudbury Co., Ontario, Canada:

James b. 02-29-1886 died in France November 1918 and is buried in Scotland. Albert James b.02-08 1888, Charles D. b. 09-14-1890, Henry b. 05-02-1892, Mary Blanche b. 02-02-1896- d 1936 in Detroit, Ellda Philomene Marie b. 05-29-1900-d 1984, George Exavier (notice that his middle name starts with E not X) b. 0-8-11-1908-d 1971, and Kenneth b. 02-19-1911-d 1934

Maries parents were of French descent, her father being born in New York and her mother being born in Quebec. The Bisson Family leased land from the Mohawk Nation in Franklin Co., New York. They then migrated to Canada where the parents of Horace lived out their days in Essex Co, Ontario, Horace and family moved from Franklin Co.NY, to Renfrew Co., Ontario, to Detroit, MI and Redford Twp., Michigan and then back to Windsor, Ontario and then onto Manitoulin Island for a short stay and they then finally settled in Massey Ontario and both Horace and Phoebe died in Massey, Ontario. They are buried in the Catholic Cemetery there in Massey. The children were all baptised in the Catholic Church there!

James was NOT of Native American descent and Marie was NOT born in Quebec. DNA testing has proved that there is NO Native American blood in the Payton Family even though Lorie refuses to believe it. DNA does not lie! James died July, 11, 1910 in Sudbury, Ontario a few short miles from his home and not because he took a white mans' job. Death Record proves that he wasn't murdered.! At the time of his death, Mary and he were expecting their eighth child. After the birth of Kenneth in 1911, Mary crossed into the United States and settled in Detroit with her four youngest children. She was not forced to change her name because of the supposed Native American blood. She did not live in Iron Mountain, Michigan and then moved onto Livonia Michigan. She and her four younger children after crossing into Michigan from Sault St. Marie settled and remained in the Detroit area. Marie died in 1922-1923 in Detroit of Breast Cancer. Mary Blanche married in 1918 to Wilbert Purdon, Ellda married Rennie Shaw, George Exavier married Irena Starzyk of Detroit. and Kenneth died in 1934 not married. In 1945, George and Irena moved to Livonia, MI with their three children, Robert, Joseph and Clara from Hamtramck, MI.and they had two more children Kenneth and George X.

Although the 1930 Census records states that Ellda and George and Kenneth were all born in Michigan it was not the truth. They only stated this because they didn't want anyone to know where they were really born. They all applied for delayed birth records using towns in the U.P because George had to register for the World War 11 Draft so he could be exempted from military service, instead he worked for Packards to fullfill his military obligation. His two sisters testified to this fact so he would be able to obtain this delayed birth record.

Anyone wishing copies of these records need only to look up the Census Records for Massey, Ontario for 1891 and 1901 and the 1930 Census for Ellda and Kenneth and George. Also the 1920 Census for Mary Blanche (Payton) Purdon. The death records can also be obtained from the Wayne County Clerks office for all of the above except Kenneth who died in Mt Clemens.

Hopefully this puts to rest the misinformation that has been given out regarding this family and the other persons wishing to have the correct info and more may contact me at my private email address.
From: "Paulette Colquhoun"
Subject: Re: [SUDBURY] My PAYTON Family Interests
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:18:55 -0500
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Sorry not aware of these names but good luck in your search.....
----- Original Message -----
From: "jeanniepayton"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:00 PM
Subject: [SUDBURY] My PAYTON Family Interests


> Dear Listers:
>
> Since this is a new year and we are already getting in to the second month
> of this new year I thought I would post my interests. My husbands
> grandparents married in Ontario and had eight children. I am looking for
> living descendants of these two families. They are as follows:
>
> James Payton b. 1853 Quebec married Marie Louise (Mary) Bisson daughter of
> Horace and Philomene Bisson. Marie Louise was born May 24, 1869 in New
> York. They married about 1885 in Ontario.
>
> James and Marie (Bisson) had the following children and lived in the
> following place until at least 1910. They lived in Massey, Ontario. which
> was a part of the Algoma district at one time but is now in the Sudbury
> district. I have found them on the 1891 and 1900 Census Records for the
> area. Their children were
>
> James Edward b. February 28, 1886 Died in France during World War One
> November , 1918
> Albert b. Febraury 8, 1888
> Charles b. September 14, 1890
> Henry b. May 2, 1893
> Mary Blanche b. February 2, 1896 died in the 1940's
> Elda Philomene b. May 29, 1896 died in 1982 in Redford,
> Michigan
> George Exavier b. August 11, 1908 died July 11, 1971 in Westland
> Kenneth b. February 19, 1911 died in 1934
>
>
> James the father died in Sudbury 1910. Marie Louise died ca1922. The
> inforamation that I have been able to obtain shows that all the children
> werre born in Massey Ontario. Several of the children went to the United
> States (Detroit, Michigan)
> and lived their lives out there. The three sons, Albert, Henry and
Charles
> seemed to move back and forth between Massey, Blind River, Ontario and
> Michigan.
>
> The eldest son James Edward entered into the service in Canada and was
> married and had one son who also had a son. I know where he is buried and
I
> have talked with his daughter-in-law and his great grandson but they were
> unable to give me any help with this family as they didn't know where
James
> had come from other than Canada. I have pictures of his gravestone and
the
> cemetery in which he is buried in Scotland that another lister was so kind
> as to send them to me.
>
> I am hoping that someone on the list is researching the same family and
may
> be of help to me. I do have quite a bit of info but am lacking on the
three
> sons that I have mentioned above. I also have information on James senior
> parents and grandparents but have not been able to trace where they were
> living between 1853 and 1886 when James showed up in Massey Ontario. I
know
> that James had at least one sibling and perhaps more but short of
> researching every county in Canada I have not found them as of yet. I know
> where his grandparents lived and died and have sent for their death
records.
> Please if anyone can be of help to me I would greatly appreciate it.
> Jean Payton